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	<title>Comments on: Criticism, journalism: things are tough/awesome all over</title>
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		<title>By: Michael Garden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Garden</dc:creator>
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		<description>Art always has been, and will be for some time to come, a business of brick, mortar, society and sex and, like it or not, I don&#039;t see that changing soon. If you want art on the walls, artist talk, academic perspective, beer, wine, music and live bodies: Thursday May 14th, 6PM to Midnight, AREA 919.

Please put me on your email list for events. Best regards, Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art always has been, and will be for some time to come, a business of brick, mortar, society and sex and, like it or not, I don&#8217;t see that changing soon. If you want art on the walls, artist talk, academic perspective, beer, wine, music and live bodies: Thursday May 14th, 6PM to Midnight, AREA 919.</p>
<p>Please put me on your email list for events. Best regards, Michael</p>
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		<title>By: Kelani Nichole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelani Nichole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice Post, Tom.  I can appreciate what you are saying about the local issue becoming less of one, and I agree it is interesting that the conversation lastnight stayed so focused locally.  I feel like that was likely a result of how the conversation was framed, from the starting point of what&#039;s happened/ing in Philly.

But it might have been more than that...

I heard something really important about the fact of &#039;local&#039; in the conversation, that I think is undeniably essential to the subject, &#039;Art Criticsm&#039;, despite the very valid point you raise above about the changing face of the bigger picture of journalism/criticism.  

I&#039;d like to suggest that the sense of frustration around being successful in this discipline IN PHILLY validates in an important way the &#039;local&#039; focus of the discussion.  Perhaps an awkward Etsy analogy will help here: it seems to me that before Philly (art, artists, crticism, critque, etc.) can even get listed in the &#039;marketplace&#039; (which has that global reach), it needs to have a &#039;product&#039; of some sort to list.  

In other words, the focus on the fact of the &#039;local&#039; seems like an attempt to work out just what it is that&#039;s going on here, a search for a way to define THAT so it might be coherent enough to be digested/reacted to by the larger global community.  From the histories recounted lastnight it seems as if Philly&#039;s been moving towards THAT, but the lack of *something* to contextualize it all makes us somewhat less viable on the larger scale.

Sure individual publishers have that global reach through the wonders of the interwebs.  Libby and Roberta are a shining example to your point here.  Additionally, individual artists are putting their work out to the larger global community through the digital realm.  However, in this thing called the &#039;Art World&#039;, without that special *something* to hold it all together it just doesn&#039;t quite work the same way.  And its clear that whatever that *something* might be for Philly, it&#039;s gonna be a whole lot about what&#039;s happening HERE.

So it starts to sound like i&#039;m suggesting that the Art World goes unaffected by this shift you bring up.  But that can&#039;t be quite right...

Just some thoughts.  Thanks again to P&#039;unk, and special kudos to Rick, for starting this conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice Post, Tom.  I can appreciate what you are saying about the local issue becoming less of one, and I agree it is interesting that the conversation lastnight stayed so focused locally.  I feel like that was likely a result of how the conversation was framed, from the starting point of what&#8217;s happened/ing in Philly.</p>
<p>But it might have been more than that&#8230;</p>
<p>I heard something really important about the fact of &#8216;local&#8217; in the conversation, that I think is undeniably essential to the subject, &#8216;Art Criticsm&#8217;, despite the very valid point you raise above about the changing face of the bigger picture of journalism/criticism.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to suggest that the sense of frustration around being successful in this discipline IN PHILLY validates in an important way the &#8216;local&#8217; focus of the discussion.  Perhaps an awkward Etsy analogy will help here: it seems to me that before Philly (art, artists, crticism, critque, etc.) can even get listed in the &#8216;marketplace&#8217; (which has that global reach), it needs to have a &#8216;product&#8217; of some sort to list.  </p>
<p>In other words, the focus on the fact of the &#8216;local&#8217; seems like an attempt to work out just what it is that&#8217;s going on here, a search for a way to define THAT so it might be coherent enough to be digested/reacted to by the larger global community.  From the histories recounted lastnight it seems as if Philly&#8217;s been moving towards THAT, but the lack of *something* to contextualize it all makes us somewhat less viable on the larger scale.</p>
<p>Sure individual publishers have that global reach through the wonders of the interwebs.  Libby and Roberta are a shining example to your point here.  Additionally, individual artists are putting their work out to the larger global community through the digital realm.  However, in this thing called the &#8216;Art World&#8217;, without that special *something* to hold it all together it just doesn&#8217;t quite work the same way.  And its clear that whatever that *something* might be for Philly, it&#8217;s gonna be a whole lot about what&#8217;s happening HERE.</p>
<p>So it starts to sound like i&#8217;m suggesting that the Art World goes unaffected by this shift you bring up.  But that can&#8217;t be quite right&#8230;</p>
<p>Just some thoughts.  Thanks again to P&#8217;unk, and special kudos to Rick, for starting this conversation.</p>
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